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: SCOTUSBLOGCommentary: Further Thoughts on Munaf/Omar Oral Argument
By Akin Gump Supreme Court Practice Group
Kevin had this to say about yesterday’s argument in the consolidated cases of Munaf v. Geren (06-1666) and Geren v. Omar (07-394).
I wanted to add a few additional thoughts about the Munaf/Omar argument yesterday, specifically with respect to the jurisdictional question. As Lyle notes in his post, counsel for the detainees allowed himself to be whipsawed a bit by some of the Justices, but that reflects in part the great difficulty of the case ? all the Justices seem to recognize that important lines have to be drawn in this case, different Justices seemed to indicate very different views about where those lines should be drawn (even among Justices whom one might ordinarily assume share the same basic outlook), and the text of the relevant statute isn?t very helpful in making the kinds of distinctions the Justices seem to feel must be drawn to balance the historic liberty-protecting office of the writ with the important interests in allowing the executive great leeway in a time and place of war.
To briefly reiterate, the detainees in this case are American citizens captured in
Both filed habeas petitions in the
On its face, the statute does not distinguish between citizens and non-citizens, between those detained or held in custody abroad or at home, between detention in the course of an armed conflict or detention during a period of tranquility, or between the various capacities in which the
Greg Garre, arguing for the
None of this is particularly surprising. What was more telling was that the conservative Justices were virtually silent during this part of the argument, none coming to Garre?s assistance on his reading of Hirota. The Chief Justice, in fact, mildly challenged Garre?s attempt to say that it made no difference in Hirota that the habeas petitioner was an alien, noting that his argument relied in part on Justice Douglas?s concurrence rather than the Court?s opinion.
At the same time, there seemed to be no appetite on the Court to give the habeas statute great breadth in the context of
On the other hand, Justice Stevens seemed to think that there was no basis for that distinction, while preferring to draw another one that also has no express basis in the text ? he continually pressed both sides on whether
In this context, one can have some sympathy for the detainees? counsel in his efforts to try to build a coalition for his clients ? even among the more liberal Justices there was a multiplicity of views about where the jurisdictional line should be drawn. And when counsel tried to broaden his theory to include the factors the various Justices seemed to deem relevant, the Chief Justice repeatedly challenged his jurisdictional principle as too complicated and indeterminate.
I mentioned that many of the various lines discussed at oral argument seem to have no basis in the text of the habeas statute?s relevant jurisdictional provision. This is a bit over-simplified, in that I think that the concept of ?jurisdiction? in habeas cases has expanded to include the broader concept of the power of a habeas court to issue certain kinds of relief in certain kinds of cases. Such considerations might more naturally be considered as going to the merits or remedy, issues upon which the habeas statute has little to say. But I think those issues have, in many respects, been converted into ?jurisdictional? issues out of a desire to provide a more immediate, threshold determination of whether the detainee presents the kind of case for which habeas is available. The result, however, is that although one might desire jurisdictional rules to be simple, and the lines they draw to be bright, the jurisdictional determination in this case, and others like it, necessarily becomes complicated and contentious.
Full post as published by SCOTUSBLOG on March 26, 2008 (boomark / email).
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