Real Estate & Property Law

HOA and CONDO Disciplinary Hearings - Which is Best? Open or Closed Sessions?

While we are on the subject of enforcement (did you see the last post on fines?) there are other prickly issues to consider.

We were talking about the California Civil Code section that speaks to what matters can be heard in executive session ... and disciplinary actions are included (see Civil Code Section 1363.05 - the Common Interest Development Open Meetings Act). The statute says that the meeting to consider discipline shall be held in exec session if the member requests it, which is totally incongruous. Why? because owners (1) do not know they can request an open session and (2) usually do not want their "dirty laundry aired in "open session" hearings.

Thus, I have taken the position that the Boards should put in their letters/notices to owners of a hearing that the meeting will be held in executive session unless the member requests an open meeting . In doing this, ...

1. The Board is letting the owner know it is the board's intention to hold the meeting in exec session BUT
2. That if the owner does not want it heard in executive session, they do have the option to ask that it not be.

Of course, this is not in perfect alignment with the statute, but I feel that it should overcome any argument by an owner that the board held a hearing in executive session without their (albeit implicit) consent.

Most boards just hold the hearings in executive session without regard for the technical issues around the statute language. However, I have seen a board get challenged on not allowing an owner a hearing in an open meeting. If the owner wants the hearing in open session, they have that right because of the way the statute reads. On the other hand, if the Board feels that having a hearing in open session presents other issues such as violation of someone else's privacy (a witness perhaps), it is best to seek the assistance of knowledgeable legal counsel to set up a reasonable process. Sometimes, different people's interests collide and there is not a way to technically satisfy both without "bending" (notice I did not say "breaking") the law.

My take on witnesses is that when a board holds a hearing, it normally states the charges and complaints but does not give out names specifically or share anything with an owner that could be embarrassing or damaging to others. Other legal practitioners take a different position that anyone charged with any violation has a right not only to know who complained, but to confront them. If a violation can be verified by someone not involved, then why create stress and promote actions that could result in retaliation? If the matter cannot be verified by anyone else, and there are no other witnesses, and it has become a "he said, she said" situation, much can be learned by holding a "meeting" of the two parties, by a person that is intuitive, a good listener, and interested in finding out what actually is occurring, before disciplinary action is meted out.

The law is what it is .... but it is not always easy to figure out what to do when interests collide, so get help when needed.

There are 5 Enforcement Primers available on the condoguru website so you can find out alot more about rule setting, policies, hearings and good enforcement practices if you wish to avail yourself of this valuable and affordable resource.

Full post as published by California Condo & HOA Law on June 01, 2009 (boomark / email).