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: China Law BlogFake China Joint Ventures. Why You Calling Me, I'm Not The Guy!
By Dan Harris and Steve Dickinson
Four in the mornin and they haul rubin in, Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs. The wounded man looks up through his one dyin eye Says, whad you bring him in here for? he aint the guy!Bob Dylan, Hurricane (for the other side of the story, go here) Not sure why, but just about every week for the last month, I have been getting calls or emails from tiny tech companies telling me they have heard I'm "the guy" for these sorts of difficult technology joint ventures. I have gotten so many of these that I now know pretty much exactly what is going to follow next and here it is: Caller: I've got this great website and it is exactly what China wants/needs. And I've been working on developing it with some Chinese tech friends of mine and we are want to take it legal so we can start getting VC (venture capital) funding for it. Here's our plan. Now I know that the old/truly legal/expected/usual way to do this is for me to form my own company and then form a joint venture with my Chinese partners, but I also know that will cost a lot of money. So our plan is for the Chinese company to own the website and then we will have an oral agreement (or a written agreement) that I really own half of it. Me: Listen, my firm has been contacted at least twenty times after these situations have gone bad and I am aware of at least another twenty times where the same thing has happened, and let me tell you, these arrangements (it is NOT proper to call these joint ventures) virtually always end the same way. They end with the Chinese company booting you out completely and leaving you with no recourse. Protecting foreign companies in legitimate joint ventures is difficult enough, but it is pretty much impossible under the scenario you are describing. We had a guy who paid us a lot of money once for us to do everything we could to try to get "his" multi-million dollar business back. Guess what, we could not even come close to getting it back. Every Chinese lawyer we talked to about suing to get it back told us we had no chance of winning at all. I mean, just listen to the argument we would need to make to the judge:
Your honor, my client knew that China's laws are very clear on what foreign companies must do to operate legally in China, but he thought these very clear laws should not apply to him because, well because he is an American tech company and he was just too smart/too poor to bother to comply with the very clear laws. So instead, he had this great method for completely circumventing China's very clear laws. His idea was to not form a company, but rather, have his Chinese friends form the company and he would have a little side deal with that company. Well, that side deal has now gone bad and my client wants you to go against China's very clear public policy on how foreign business is to be done in China and enforce this unwritten side deal.What do you think of that argument? Caller: (long pause) I understand things could go wrong with that kind of arrangement, but would you be willing to draft the contract between me and the Chinese company? Me: No. I can't do that. I can't draft a contract that I know will never work. I just can't. Give me a call if you ever want to do this legally, in a way where you actually have a chance of profiting from your work down the road. For more on this, check out "China SMEs, Own If You Want To Own." To get a feel for how difficult it can be even with a fully legal joint venture, check out this article by Steve Dickinson in China Brief, entitled, "Avoiding Mistakes in Chinese Joint Ventures." and this Wall Street Journal article I wrote, entitled, "Joint Venture Jeopardy."
Full post as published by China Law Blog on March 27, 2009 (boomark / email).
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