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The "Pros" from Dover

By John Pieret

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The Discovery Institute's Ministry of Misinformation is bewailing the mean ol' "Darwinists" again:

The anti-ID crowd has an old canard about there being no serious scientists who doubt Darwin, let alone any that support intelligent design. And they like to say that there is no science being done by ID scientists. Both ideas are not just false, but absurdly so.

As "proof" of the scientific weightiness of its discoveryless research arm, Robert Crowther proudly announces the:

... new scientific arrivals at Biologic Institute. Professor Matti Leisola, the Dean of Chemistry and Materials Science at Helsinki University of Technology in Finland; Colin Reeves, Professor of Operational Research in the School of Mathematical and Information Sciences at Coventry University; and Professor Stuart Burgess, Head of the Department of Mechanical Engineering at the University of Bristol.

Hmmm ... no evolutionary biologists. So what exactly are the "qualifications" of these luminaries?

Matti Leisola was a presenter at the 8th European Creationist Congress and gave a speech entitled "30 years as a non-evolutionist." These conferences have been organized by Creation Conferences, that gives its mission as "Promoting Biblical Creation and its relevance today through regional and national conferences." In addition, Leisola was identified by Creation Ministries International, a young-Earth creationist organization, as one of the "biblical creationists" who appeared in its opus, Son of Expelled ... er ... The Voyage That Shook The World.

Colin Reeves is a Trustee of Biblical Creation Ministries, which gives, among other things, as part of its "Statement of Faith" (emphasis added):

? Our belief in Creation is grounded in the Bible, the written Word of God. The assertions of Holy Scripture are factually true in the original autographs and free from error, not only in spiritual matters but also in references to, or accounts of, nature and history.

? The Bible presents a simple but historical account of actual events and therefore provides a reliable framework for scientific research into the origin and history of life, mankind, the earth, and the universe. ...

? The biblical Flood was an actual historical event, worldwide (global) in its extent and effects.

And my personal favorite for demonstrating good scientific practice:

? No apparent, perceived, or claimed evidence in any historical or scientific field of study can be valid if it contradicts the record of Holy Scripture. Evidence is always subject to interpretation by people who are fallen, fallible, and limited in knowledge.

The British Centre for Science Education (BCSE) has more on Professor Reeves.

Stuart Burgess was also listed as a "biblical creationist" appearing in CMI's movie and is named as an "Associate Speaker" for Answers In Genesis (U.K./Europe), which has a similar Statement of Faith. He has published articles in AiG's "technical journal," Creation ex Nihilo and then there is this warm endorsement by Ken Ham himself, who says of Burgess that he is "a Bible believing creationist (I know him personally and have spoken at a conference with him)." The BCSE has more on Professor Burgess as well.

Now, you see, Mr. Crowther, the idea of science does not include reaching your conclusion first and declaring that nothing can change your mind. So you'll excuse us if we still don't think you have any serious scientists on the subject of evolution or design and if we don't expect any more science to be done at the Biologic Institute than has been done to date.

In any event, it looks like the YECs are coming to Seattle.

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Update: John Lynch simultaneously discovered the YEC influx to the center of ID "research." John uncovered the fact that Reeves (and Burgess) has lectured for the ?Genesis Agendum? which is a British organization dedicated to ?demonstrating the accuracy of the Bible through historical and scientific scholarship."

I went away singing "La Cucaracha."
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Full post as published by Thoughts in a Haystack on August 07, 2009 (boomark / email).

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