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Before Kevin Smith...

I want to create a bit of an open thread here regarding OCIP. I realize most of you have submitted your bids, but here's a place to ask questions. I think ATL is incredibly useful for firm research, if you have the time and patience. But a few things should raise some red flags, e.g., Heller. Also, note the open threads organized by Vault rankings.

For nitty gritty tips, read this post by Disco Stu from several years ago. Also, I think a comment from the same year about grade breakdowns in the LA market seems very accurate based on little more than anecdotal evidence. The commenter wrote:

Roughly speaking ...

MOST SELECTIVE

Munger, Tolles & Olson
Irell & Manella
(Need to be in top 15-25 people in class or so. Should have say, 50% HHs, but may be able to get away with only 1/3rd HHs, or a P. These are two of the top 5 most selective firms in the country, and lucky for us, they happen to hire a lot from Boalt.)

THEN --

Gibson
Latham
O'Melveny
Skadden LA
Kirkland LA
(a good rule of thumb is 5 Hs in 1L year, with HH counting as 2 Hs)

Paul Hastings
Quinn Emanuel
Sidley LA
(middle of the pack selectivity; say even mix of Hs and Ps, maybe an HH here and there)

Pillsbury
Sheppard
Manatt
random small branch offices of out-of-town firms
(one or two Hs and/or CLR should be good)

Maybe Quinn may be moved up a bit as they've been putting a lot of emphasis on top 10% or what have you. But there you have it. This year, Patrick will be handling the call back thread when the time comes.

Full post as published by Nuts & Boalts on August 21, 2008 (boomark / email).